In the rush of getting the product out the door, I didn't get a chance to update you on some great updates to the product configuration. Here's a short summary:

Additional 2D and 3D support:
We heard you loud and clear: you want more input video formats. Below is the full list of 2D and 3D formats supported by the ST1080. Additionally, if there are other formats that we can support in the future, we will make the firmware upgrades available for download from the Support area of our website. Please be sure to register your product on our support website (it'll be live in a couple of days) so that we can contact you when new firmware upgrades are available.
ST1080 Supported Formats
2D
1920x1080p_60hz
1280x720p_60hz
1920x1080i_60hz
1920x1080p_24hz
720x480p_60hz
640x480p_60hz
720x576p_50hz
1280x720p_50hz
1920x1080i_50hz
1920x1080p_50hz

3D
1920x1080p_24hz    Frame-packed (full resolution)
1920x1080p_24hz   Top-Bottom (half  resolution)
1920x1080i_60hz   Side-by-Side (half  resolution)
1280x720p_60hz   Frame-packed (full resolution)
1280x720p_60hz   Top-Bottom (half  resolution)
1920x1080p_60hz    Side-by-Side (half  resolution)
1920x1080p_60hz   Top-Bottom (half  resolution)
1920x1080p_30hz   Top-Bottom (full  resolution)
1920x1080i_50hz   Side-by-Side (half  resolution)
1280x720p_50hz   Frame-packed (full resolution)
1280x720p_50hz   Top-Bottom (half  resolution)
AC Adapter with integrated USB cable:
We were able to find a nice USB AC adapter that has (1) an integrated USB cable with a micro-USB connect for connecting to the ST1080 Controller, and (2) regional AC plugs that are removable. We will pack the correct AC adapter for your country. If you need connectors for other regions, then please email us to let us know. If we get enough requests, we may just offer them for sale as an accessory on our website.

Quick Start Guide and registering your product:
Your shipment will include a Quick Start Guide. Detailed product information, including a user's manual, will be available only on our website. We're trying to be green.

Please register your product to take full advantage of the one-year limited warranty as well as to get on the mailing list for product notices such as firmware upgrades and other incentives on future products.
 


Comments

05/15/2012 13:24

Great news! That got you loud cheering from here. :)
With this, TV material from Europe and other 50Hz regions will work.

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Jeffrey
05/15/2012 13:35

Awesome! SiliconMicroDisplay listens to their customers and have a great product. Ofcourse I still have to recieve and try it but I'm sure the wait was worth it (F5'ing the track&trace page :D).

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ravi
05/15/2012 13:50

Very nice! , this makes the wait even harder you know :)

hope production is moving along swiftly now

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Gerard
05/15/2012 14:03

One word : Beautiful.

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Mr Nigam
05/15/2012 14:29

Oh My God ! SMD finally got me wanting this now with 720x480p_60hz,640x480p_60hz,720x576p_50hz added to 2D , the VGA [640x480p@60Hz] has got me glued now to this st1080

Now i need the review of this hopefully by the end of this month - it will be there so watching this st1080 on the net like a hawk!

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Mr Nigam
05/15/2012 14:35

I was craving for a monitor replacement , now with enhanced 2D support and VGA resolution [480p@60Hz] added - st1080 will be great !

Mr Jin has finally delivered a 'monitor replacement' with latest 3D support [st1080] - Kudos to u Mr Jin

I wish st1080 be the ultimate HMD for VR and AR enthusiast and look forward to the 8M version and higher - u guys will only make this better and better

Thank u Mr Jin - God Bless U and the SMD familly

Best wishes
Mr Nigam

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05/28/2012 02:25

Thanks for adding your valuable information the content's are really very well.

ravi
05/15/2012 14:41

lol ironically enough first person i thought of after seeing this update was Mr Nigam and low and behold hes here

good for you dude that it meets your needs now, (i do mean that in a good way,)

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Mr Niigam
05/15/2012 15:26

This makes st1080 usable with devices like Egreat , Xtreamer media players and especially display-less HTPCs like Asrock Ion 3d which i own. Most of them output NTSC ./ PAL resolutions over HDMI besides the higher resolutions.

Becoz of scaler only i was wanting vuzix wrap 1200 knowing the crappy quality of vuzix but now this update changed everything!

Finally Headplay PCS HMD will have a match with st1080 now which i have been using with Asrock ion 3D of late [my LED TV crapped out sometime ago]

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Mr Nigam
05/15/2012 15:38

this is my last post as becoz of words limitation hence multiple postings.....

Sony Guys if u are reading this , get ur act together coz st1080 will rule the earth for a long time and Sony might have to close down their HMD division unless they bring v2 of HMZ sun glasses style with same / better specs of HMZ-T1 compaeitn with st1080.


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Sokerimuro Frodo
05/17/2012 06:40

I would like to know if I can attach this ST1080 to my Xbox 360 and play games that support 3D such as Batman: Arkham City?

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Paul Jin
05/19/2012 02:29

Sokerimuro Frodo - Short answer is, yes.

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Gen
05/23/2012 08:56

Hi Paul,

I am eagerly awaiting my pre-ordered unit and in the meantime have been reading The Game Veda’s review in progress which is hugely complimentary thus far except when it comes to the side-by-side 3D console gaming. In part 4 of his review (just up today), all but one of the games tested in 3D (Uncharted 3, Killzone 3, Crysis 2, Halo Anniversary, - all major titles) apparently suffered from the virtual 100” screen size being reduced to what the reviewer described as a 60” x 30” letter box, just over a third of the screen’s original / non-3D size, rendering the aforementioned games “frankly unplayable in 3D on the ST1080”.

Only the Avatar video game worked without affecting the screen size. He went on to say that “trying to change 3D method does not help as only frame-packing or top-bottom options are selectable. Even when you select side-by-side outside or inside the game, the games revert to a frame packed box.” The reviewer attributes this to the games outputting a 3D image of a lower res format than currently supported by the ST1080 and no subsequent facility to upscale the image in question...

This is somewhat worrying for me as I made the purchase primarily for the purpose of 3D console gaming. Is the reviewer missing something here or is this result unavoidable at present? If so, can it be fixed through firmware?

Please let us know & thank you for your time.

Gen
05/23/2012 09:30

Hi Paul,

Having had a bit more time to read through all the comments, I see now that you have announced that an update to allow upscaling is coming which is great news and apologies for not picking up on that before I originally posted.

I just have one further question which is whether 720p side-by-side 3D will be supported in the future?

Thanks.

mikey
05/17/2012 13:11

Hi peeps, thought you guys(gals) might be interested in this free open source face-tracking software called facetracknoir:
http://facetracknoir.sourceforge.net/home/default.htm
to compliment the ST1080, all you need is a high fps webcam. Maybe Mr jin can do a deal with its author and bundle it with it...if it works...we can but dream.

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chris
05/19/2012 13:51

Received mine last night, wonderful box waiting for me on my doorstep. First thoughts are they are larger and bulkier than I expected. The visual quality is stunning. I do get some prism artifacts because of my astigmatism. I've got some issues with the picture being blurry in the top corners, but focus seems to be dependent on the angle they face your eyes.

The only disappointment is the lack of scaling. 1080 images are full screen, while 720 images are 3/4 screen. On the other hand, Killzone3 in 3D was stunning, even at 3/4 screen.

Great job guys! I will write a more thorough review after I've spent a few days with them.

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mikey
05/19/2012 14:04

Grats!, May I ask are you gaming on a console or PC?, We need more PC users to test 1080p@30hz, whether that works ..or not.:).Post your thoughts on it Chris , thanks!.

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Dennis
05/19/2012 14:05

Very very surprised by the 720p comment. Does that mean the lower resolutions are essentially smaller real estate on the screen?

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ravi
05/19/2012 14:45

well i guess the smaller real estate makes sense cause that screen is gonna be right at your face and its apparently a 100 inch image they put at you., so a blown up 720p screen wouldnt look all that great, maybe they could fix it down the line with a firnware upgrade.

got a couple of questions that i hope you will be able to answer.

thanks for the impressions, but may i ask a few questions

hows the 10percent transparency see outside feature?

and hows the picture quality with the light blocker on, versus with no light blocker on? im curious because im gonna guess and its probably obvious that with the light blocker on the picture quality is better than without the lightblocker

and when did you preorder the product?

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Mr Nigam
05/20/2012 16:05

Hi
This 'd not be an issue to bother Mr Jin with !

Plz correct me if i am wrong !

For PC users - my advise upgrade your hardware - better graphic cards + CPU + RAM and SSD hard drives for great gaming fps so that u do not have to downscale to 720p for better game frame rate at all.- FYI - Mr Jin will not help u financially for this - trust me !

For console gamers - simple make sure that the games can be played @1080p before u purchase the game as PS3 can output 1080p via HDMI so it becomes game limitation to play @720p NOT Mr Jin 's fault !

refer here : http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/videooutput.html

For those using st1080 for on-the-cinema using nettops (me) / blu-ray players / media players - the upscaling is already built-in into the devices mentioned so u will get to have full fov @1080p anyway so the best part cinema users will not bother with this '720p reduced fov' crap !

In short - please DO NOT bother Mr Jin with this "720p-reduced FOV crap" as he's delivered a great product which makes the HMZ-T1 a dorky crap worth usd50 only

Kudos to u Mr Jin

I will place the order once there is immediate dispatch possible upon payment as i know SMD is too occupied with pre-orders !

best wishes to SMD family
Mr Nigam



chris
05/20/2012 17:51

A few clarifications!

PS3 and xbox360 can only do 3d at 720p for games. I don't have any 3D bluray movies, yet, so I can't comment to that. Please read my comments again - gaming in 720p 3D is phenominal, even with the reduced screen size. After playing a few games in 1080p 2D vs. 720p 3D - I prefer the 720p.

answers:I was one of the first pre-orders, I was working late when the ordering system went live and I ordered within 2 hours of it being possible without a password.

I have not tried removing the light blocker and I do not intend to. My purpose for the glasses are playing video games at home while I exercise on my recumbent bike and watching movies on the airplane and hotel room (I travel almost every week for work). There is plenty of visibility below the glasses for my purposes.

The visual quality is stunning for such small glasses. I can not fairly judge the overall video quality because I have severe astigmatism (opposing diagonal). The ST1080 work great over my glasses. I need to test some more to decide if the goggles work better with my glasses or my contacts.

I do have a displayport to HDMI adapter for my laptop, so I will try hooking that up next week while I am stuck in the hotel and bored at night.

Congratulations Mr. Jin! I love the ST1080. They are making me want to get laser eye surgery so I can fully appreciate the goggles capabilities.

chris

yann
05/19/2012 16:45

Not scaling 720 material (which should be scaled 2:3 in both axes) is sad. I'd understand it if that mode was rushed, but needing 720 would be obvious from the start (as has been said, most modern console games use that mode). Perhaps there's an option buried somewhere for 1:1 pixel mapping which should be turned off?
Scaling will matter even more for SD modes which have rectangular (not square) pixels.

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Robert
05/19/2012 15:45

How? not scale, then to play PS3 games are almost all the 720p is it reduces the image / screen and not continue to scale to large screen? that can not be, would be a big disappointment for me. Please can someone clarify this or configuration may be missing?

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Ken
05/19/2012 21:21

If the picture is reduced in size when using 720p resolution to 3/4 of the 1080p screen it might be just using the pixels without any drop of picture quality ! That was a thing i wanted to know or a long time.

If the resolution is reduced to another than native resolution you automatically have a drop of picture quality on TFT Monitors.

This might be different on the ST1080 because it might use the needed pixels without upscaling and dropping quality of the picture.

Please Chris give us detailed information about this !
Thank you !

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Dennis
05/19/2012 23:15

This actually isnt great at all. Most people use a lower resolution because fonts and icons are too small to see at higher resolutions. By using 3/4 of the screen for 720p, the fonts and graphics will remain the same size as 1080p

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Ken
05/20/2012 10:52

Your right , people use lower resolutions to have bigger icons and fonts but for the price of being kind of blurry /unsharp !
This is not really wishfull ..at least not for me and i believe also not for many other customers.

This way the picture quality would stay sharp, the only thing you have to do is to enlarge fonts in Windows Options.
Also any Internetbrowser increases fonts by pressing : Strg+Mousewheel-up

This should be sufficient to work in Windows at maximum sharpness of the shown picture.

I would rather give up FOV for a brilliant picture than the other way around.

Especially for Flightsimulation fans ( as i am ) the Full HD resolution at 24-30 FPS should absolutely sufficient.
If not enough Frames per second then i woul use the reduced resolution but then i still would have a perfect picture quality.
All cockpit gauges and HUD information and Chat messages will be shown in a sharp picture quality ... i hope i could explain why i like this technical solution

Patrick M
05/19/2012 22:37

This issue must be fixed.

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Nuieve
05/20/2012 02:01

Stuff like this is exactly the reason I didn't preorder. I'd be VERY upset. Having 720p on a smaller virtual screen (actually not 3/4 but closer to 1/4-1/3...)... and this in turn reduces FOV to what? - 20 degree or something?

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WiredEarp
05/20/2012 02:30

If this is true, its going to hurt sales, as otherwise the already lowish FOV will be reduced to pathetic depths :(

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05/20/2012 06:28

Tomorrow I'll recieve my unit and check of I can confirm this and check if there isn't just some setting (like most screens have) for scaling up. I will post my results here and on my blog (url will be posted here then, and on my twitter). Also other configuration settings and resolutions will be reviewed (Will test it from my PC). I'm a bit more active than the others on here, so hopefully I can answer most of the questions quickly.

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Juan
05/20/2012 07:34

SMD is strange that not clarify this important aspect scaling.

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Patrick M
05/20/2012 13:51

Agreed

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Paul Fay
05/20/2012 09:38

Hi Chris, when did you pre order the product? If it was 1st March what time Eastern? Also any update on the scaling issue?

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Flim
05/20/2012 11:01

Hey Veda...

you have to get your own website if you want poeple to read your blog! It is bad... crashes my ipad every 3 seconds.

Secondly, I understand about half of your wirtting, please convey your ideas in normal english, not UK slang!

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Ken
05/20/2012 15:41

That is exactly what i was thinking when i was reading his review on his blog !!!
He used a weird language that not everyone could clearly understand ... there are many people from all places all over the world who follow any information available in the internet about this awsome new product and this guy uses slang phrases and weird expressions, may be regional slang ...unbelieveable !!!!

You should have known better Veda !
Please correct your review in a way we all understand what you want to tell about this piece of Hardware.
Thank You !

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05/28/2012 10:54

hey guys it's hip to be square ! .. Seriously I am on day 10 of testing the ST1080 , actually 2 of them. 10 days into owning two I still have unresolved issues with 1.buzzing interference from the headset ear pieces ( not present when using my headphones connected to the control unit ) 2. a feint vertical bar of pixels present in exactly the same position 1/3rd along from the left on both ST1080s for which smd have promised a firmware fix.. 3. Reading Jeffreys excellent , or most excellent as us crackhead slacker English slang blogging types like to say , review I concur with all his points. I am a long time Sony HMZT1 owner too , and I can tell you even with present flaws like non scaling console games , buzzing from the earbuds , the ST1080 comfortably ( literally ) makes the Sony HMZT1 look the fossil it is , The versatility of the ST1080 is insane , I have not stopped figuring out uses for it , reviewing it is thus both pleasure and hard work . If you watch 3D films , the 3D of this device is superior to other hmds , 2D films the resolution is superior to other hmds , if you work you can read the text on the screen not so on the 720p Sony . All PC games can scale to the full screen eg Crysis 2 3D at 720 or 1080p 3D . Also the 1080p res gives 2D Bluray 1080p films and 3D films a scale that you do not see on the HMZT1 ,I take your point about blogger , try it on the new iPad and when I have time I need to move to a real site! With the ST1080 if you are a heavy movie watcher you can do so without damaging your health (other than your eyes) , Lastly I agree with Jin san , the beauty of this device becomes apparent when you throw a native 1080p source at it , whether it is 2d or 3d , game ,film or desktop , wait till you play Skygamblers strreaming wireless to the ST1080 using gyro control from new iPad ( which will run my site quite happily) .Today I am going to rip that light blocker off the back and continue reviewing , oh and re blacks ... you won't care once the convenience of playing Crysis 2 in 1080p 3D anywhere or when your gut tightens up again as Josh Duhamel and co leap out the helos over Chicago in Transformers Dark of the Moon and the even greater convenience of being able to take the unit off and put it on again hits you . So lets get behind Mr Jin , get some feedback to smd so they keep improving the ST1080 ,

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Jeffrey
05/28/2012 11:16

I haven't really used the 'built in' earphones yet. But after reading your message I tried it. I must confirm the buzzing noise. There is indeed a noticable buzzing noise as soon as you turn the ST1080 on.

For the feint vertical bar of pixels, it took me a while to find it but I must also confirm that one. 1/3rd on the left there is a small (10 pixel?) line being a little bit darker than the rest. I only noticed it with a gray background. I didn't even noticed it during my gaming and movie watching this week but yes it is there. Well waiting for firmware updates is not a new thing for early adopters ;).

1080p content on this device is really awesome yeah :).

05/29/2012 15:41

hey guys just applied the firmware update and the feint bar has now vanished and I have a perfect 100" desktop and 3d cinema screen. Excellent customer service and tech support. The ST1080 is such a versatile piece of kit we are all going to have many adventures figuring out how and what to use it for. New owners make sure you have access to a micro USB cable , the kind that fits the onlive console which if you have , you have the cable already.

05/29/2012 16:02

Awesome! The firmware update download page however is not. It requires you to mail to techsupport@siliconmicrodisplay.com. Which bounches my mail directly back to me 'Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently'.

Mr Nigam
05/20/2012 16:13

Hi
Correction :

This 'd not be an issue to bother Mr Jin with !

Plz correct me if i am wrong !

For PC users - my advise upgrade your hardware - better graphic cards + CPU + RAM and SSD hard drives for great gaming fps so that u do not have to downscale to 720p for better game frame rate at all.- FYI - Mr Jin will not help u financially for this - trust me !

For console gamers - simple make sure that the games can be played @1080p before u purchase the game as PS3 can output 1080p via HDMI so it becomes game limitation to not play @10820p - NOT st1080's fault !

refer here : http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/videooutput.html

For those using st1080 for on-the-cinema using nettops (me) / blu-ray players / media players - the upscaling is already built-in into the devices mentioned so u will get to have full fov @1080p anyway so the best part cinema users will not bother with this '720p reduced fov' crap !

In short - please DO NOT bother Mr Jin with this "720p-reduced FOV crap" as he's delivered a great product which makes the HMZ-T1 a dorky crap worth usd50 only

Kudos to u Mr Jin

I will place the order once there is immediate dispatch possible upon payment as i know SMD is too preoccupied with pre-orders fulfillment !

best wishes to SMD family and special thanks to Mr Jin
Mr Nigam

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WiredEarp
05/20/2012 22:31

You obviously have missed the entire point.
You cannot play in 1080P / 3D mode at more than 30 fps. So, to get a decent frame rate in 3D, you HAVE to play in 720P.
This has nothing to do with your PC, this is an HDMI limitation.
In short, please do not comment if you do not understand the issue fully.

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Nuieve
05/20/2012 22:51

I don't think you can do 30hz in 3d. 24hz is your limit. 30hz is actually not bad at all if your computer puts out stable 30 fps, you can play comfortably at that framerate.

Mr Nigam
05/21/2012 05:53

WiredEarp - check the specs -
1920x1080p @ 24Hz Frame Packing (full resolution)
1920x1080p @ 24Hz Top-and-Bottom (half resolution) for st1080

now the question is - is your hardware able to provide decent frame rate gaming at 1080p@24hz for full frame packing / SBS
if the answer is yes- then it's ok and if NO then then it's ur hardware fault

i believe it's possible;le with only TOP end graphic cards but then why 'd i care - i am not a gamer

and if i were to game - i will not use the st1080 glasses - i will use std. BIG LCD/ Plasma with 3D capability [3d vision] to enjoy !

hope that answers

yann
05/21/2012 06:10

Please do not post so combatively. Nigam, you are indeed missing the issue as "decent frame rate gaming" and "24Hz" are a plain conflict for a lot of games and gamers (who would go higher than 60 if they could). Also, the HDMI limitation is one of convention; we can shift the compromise around, and acquire 960x1080 or 1920x540 resolution at 60Hz for PCs. This matches what passive 3D monitors can do, at less load to your graphics card - but requires driver support. The problem is consoles don't support that. In the end, I believe the update to optionally scale 720 mode will be sufficient until such a time there's a higher bandwidth successor.

WiredEarp
05/21/2012 11:13

@ Mr Nigram:
I can run @ 1920x1080 @ 120FPS in some games. Thats just with an i7 and a GTX580, so not even top of line anymore. In BF3, I get about 45fps in 3D mode, so I'd be losing 15fps running in 1080 mode.

Being limited to 24-30fps for 3D gameplay would suck, although thats totally acceptable for some games such as flight sims.

Fortunately, I have now been told they are going to implement selectable scaling in about a month. That would keep everyone happy. For some purposes, non scaled would be better (watching movies?). For other purposes, scaled would be nicer...

Dennis
05/20/2012 17:30

How much of a hypocrite are you? You're now pumping the tires of a product that appears to have real deficiencies. We aren't sure of the validity just yet but if 720p cannot be shown up to scale due to ST1080's hardware I don't think you'd be happy either.
I'm not the geekiest guy around but I'm certain people's concern is not whether the device can show 1080p but that it cannot play games at a refresh rate that is fast enough for certain games to be enjoyable. CPU and video cards can't do anything if the display does not support faster refresh rates on 1080p

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chris
05/20/2012 18:00

I have played several console games on the ST1080 at 1080p in 2D and they are great! The FOV is huge.

720p is only a limitation for 3D. The 720p limitation is because the PS3 and xbox360 can only do 3D at 720p. While 3D is a pretty cool novelty for me so far, I'm not sure I'll stick with it.

For gaming, I'm finding the 720p better because I can see the entire screen. Playing MW3 in 1080p using the ST1080, I have to shift my eyes to the corners to read messages.

Last night I was also playing shadowgun 3D on my Transformer Prime tablet using the ST1080 - so freaking cool!

Chris

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Dennis
05/20/2012 21:59

Hey Chris I wasn't calling you a hyprocrite I hope you realize that.
I'm glad you still enjoy the device at 720p despite it being on smaller real estate of the screen. But that's your personal preference. Hopefully there are settings that allow 720p to be scaled fullscreen because a lot of people will be disappointed if that is not possible.
To be honest I'll be using the device much like you would so it's not the biggest issue for me either. And I'm also very happy to hear that the device works well over prescription glasses. Does your prescription glasses have a very slim frame (ie. rimless or half rim)?

Paul Fay
05/20/2012 18:27

Chris still interested to know when you ordered? Thanks.

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Jeffrey
05/20/2012 18:45

He answered that in another comment here: "I was one of the first pre-orders, I was working late when the ordering system went live and I ordered within 2 hours of it being possible without a password."

I guess the same time as me then :)

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Jeff King
05/20/2012 20:11

chris,

Do you wear glasses? I'm curious to know how it feels with people that wear glasses.

Thanks
Jeff.

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chris
05/20/2012 21:36

Jeff,

I mentioned above that I do wear glasses. I thought they would interfere with my glasses, but not at all. The goggles sit farther out than my glasses. I'm still playing around with the nosepieces to get the best placement of my pupil to the screen itself.

Not sure if that got mentioned elsewhere, but the unit ships with two interchangeable nosepieces to adjust where the goggles sit in relation to your pupils.

Chris

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Ken
05/20/2012 21:30

For better understanding of this complex stuff please have a look at this website !

There is a really good explenation of Pixels and Screensize :

http://www.besthdtvscreen.com/guides/720p-vs-1080p-comparison

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Paul Jin
05/21/2012 02:08

Everyone - Wow! For those reviewing their ST1080, thank you for posting your thoughts and experience. For those with questions, we do hear you.

Regarding shipping, all orders that we have (consumer, distributor, businesses) are all pre-paid, so the fairest thing for us to do is to handle shipments in order. The fact that the big order backlog is affecting the delivery times of even those who purchased on March 1 is undeniable. All we can tell you is that we're doing our best to ship as many units as quickly as possible. We shipped out three batches last week, and we are expecting to ship out two more this week. The number of consumer units shipped varies from batch to batch because of the consumer/distributor/business order mix.

Regarding 720p scaling, our philosophy is that content should be viewed in the same resolution as the resolution of the content format. Scaling always produces undesirable artifacts, including scaling up from 720p to 1080p. However, we do understand what you are saying. The ST1080 currently does not have the option to scale up a display format. But, we are committed to providing a firmware upgrade in about a month that will give you the option to view 720p content in scaled-up full-display mode. We still recommend viewing content in their native resolution, but we will give you the ability to select that setting.

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Dennis
05/21/2012 03:53

It's great that you're going to address this issue! I'm not sure if Mr Nigam will be satisfied with this answer though since you only mention up-scaling 720p haha

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Mr Nigam
05/21/2012 05:32

Dennis - i do not need to bother abt this '720p-reduced fov' ' as my only interest is watching the 'movies on the go' and all of my devices - PMPs, nettops, blu-ray palyers , media-players have up-scaling ability [at the source] so regardless i will get full FOV anyways

it's the Gamers who have to worry about whether they play on PC / console

Also - FOV of around 40 is also NOT bad for me as i am habitual to using eMagin z800 3dvisor[FOV 40] .

but it's good to hear from mr Jin that an option will be there to up-scale and avoid 1:1 pixel mapping and it will be provided as an update.

best wishes
Mr Nigam

Dennis
05/21/2012 15:43

Mr Nigam, I'm glad you don't have an issue with the non-scaling 720p resolution. But if I remember correctly you were concerned about lower resolutions like 640x480p@60Hz not being included. Well now it sounds like these resolutions won't be scaled up either so if you use the device to show native 640x480 resolution it'll be less than 1/4 of the screen giving you about 10 degrees of diagonal FOV.
I'm not saying I have an issue with the ST1080. I love it so far. But I'm just pointing out your sudden overwhelming support for the ST1080 despite it not changing anything you were vehemently complaining about before.

Ken
05/21/2012 05:11

Thank you Mr. Jin that you will allow people to decide themselves if they want to have an upscaled display format or not.

That for sure will satisfy all your customers !
I would prefer the original pixel size to enjoy the perfect sharpness of the display in its native Full HD resolution and hope that you will not change your actual philosophy.

Your fast reaction to the comments show me once again, that you and the silicon micro display company are really doing a great job by listening to your customers.

Thumps up !

Thank you very much !
Best regards,
Ken


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Mr Nigam
05/22/2012 09:54

@Dennis - well i wanted VGA@60hz for my nettop irrespective of the 'real screen estate ' issue as i wanted to see the startup screen on the laptop/nettop so that i'd confirm that windows is indeed going to load.

As soon as windows loads the graphic card [ nvidia GT218 known as ion 2] will come into play and pass the optimal resolution hdmi to st1080 [native 1080p]

i have thie issue with z800 [via VGA] as for some moments the z800 screen is black while windows is loading then windows loads 800x600 to get me started with z800

So in a nutshell - normal fov or smaller screen real estate - whatever , i need to get the boot / startup screen showing on st1080 to chk if windows loading normally or getting stuck at startup as once windows loads , the native resolution will be passed on auto or after some settings [first time startup]

Rest of the devices like blu-ray player,media players - they have a built-in scaler to output 1080p so i need not worry about them

BTW - i am not a gamer just need this for movies on the go !
Currently interested in getting this cowon z2 [info refer here : http://cowonglobal.com/] to stream movies on wifi home network [no internet] - small device plays music and video upto 1080p with hdmi output and micro-usb for power just right for this st1080.

hope this answers yuor question Dennis



Bolt Upright
05/21/2012 09:41

Thanks for clearing that up Mr Jin! The 720p question was beginning to show up on some forums and was the only real grumble I have heard so far about the ST1080.

That settles it, I'm in! I'll be ordering mine today or tomorrow! I've waited about 20 yrs for something close to this and can't wait any longer. I'm really anxious to visit "other worlds" in games & movies.

Soon afterward, I expect I will be unable to resist ordering the TrackIR head-tracking to compliment the headset.

Your responsiveness to questions & users' desires is very much appreciated and reflects well on the company. Thanks! ;)

Like a kid in a toy store( I'm 53 btw.. :P ) I can't wait to experience things such as Avatar 3D, Skyrim, Second Life, the upcoming Planetside 2, Urthecast (free live 24/7 HD streaming of the Earth from the ISS space station!!), concert videos, etc etc

FYI: for good examples of the above search Youtube for "Planetside 2 - Night Ops", "Skyrim VR with Sony HMZ-T1".

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WiredEarp
05/21/2012 11:08

Awesome, that would satisfy everyone!

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Jeffrey
05/21/2012 07:29

Package is recieved! :D. I'm now at work so I'll try and review it tonight :)

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Paul Fay
05/21/2012 07:46

Mr Jin is it possible to have a separate bespoke section of your website here users can post reviews, comments on their experiences, tips etc? That would be easier for potential buyerrs than having to trawl through these blogs to make a buying decision.

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Paul Jin
05/21/2012 08:24

Paul Fay - yes. We have been working on a forums section, which will go live either today or tomorrow. Thanks.

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Mr Nigam
05/21/2012 08:51

i second this request of a separate space for reviews
Nice suggestion from Paul

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Flim
05/21/2012 08:00

Hey Jeff, can you test rapid head movents as if you had head-tracking and see if you throw-up? lol

This will give us Flightsim guys some heads up on what meds to take before flying the A-10!

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tcboy88
05/21/2012 10:59

Hi Mr Paul Jin, when you mentioned about shipping to distributor currently, do you mean that we can buy from the distributor?
Your customer service told me Korea distributor will be setup since long ago, but there is no news until now =(

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Paul Jin
05/21/2012 12:09

tcboy88 - We have more than one distributor, but the Korean distributor is now set up to take orders at www.dayulnt.com. However, for Korean customers who placed orders already, we will be contacting you within the next week about transitioning your order to Dayul. The process is a little complicated, but we are working on it. Thanks.

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ravi
05/21/2012 12:49

Mr Jin would you be able to say if the majority of the orders were placed at the beginning of the march and at the end of march,

cause i contacted sales last week asking about my order and they said that my march 21 order is expected to ship out next week (end of the month)

so im guessing and based of the comments in the blog posts that the majority of orders were placed near the beginning and near the end of march then

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Paul Jin
05/21/2012 16:59

Ravi - March 1 was definitely the highest volume day. But we also had a pretty high run throughout March.

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05/21/2012 14:40

I tested my ST1080 for a few hours and published a review about it :). Please check it out on my website:
http://jeffreyvanbinsbergen.nl/2/ST1080+Review+%28Part+1%29

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Dennis
05/21/2012 15:28

great review! There are shortcomings with the device.. there's no denying that. But overall it sounds like a great device! Do you happen to wear prescription glasses? If you do could you comment on the comforts of the device over another pair of glasses? Thanks!

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Jeffrey
05/21/2012 15:41

I don't wear prescription glasses. I just tried to put it on while having sunglases on. The ST1080 actually leaves some space between the unit and your head so the glases fit in between there. The unit is a little bit more away and a little bit lower with a secondary pair of glasses on. But other than that it is still very usable for me.

Dennis
05/21/2012 15:47

thanks for the quick reply! Since the device sits a bit further away would you say you get a smaller virtual screen and some reduction in quality of the image?

Jeffrey
05/21/2012 16:11

The whole screen is still visible with extra glasses on, the size doesn't change. Corners are still a bit blurry with 1080p resolutions so there isn't really difference than without the extra glasses. Can't say how well it works with normal glasses instead of some sunglasses ofcourse ;).

Dennis
05/21/2012 16:12

that's pretty much what I wanted to hear!! OK time to order this beast =) Thanks Jeff!

Ken
05/21/2012 19:13

Very good introduction for the review and a clear and easy to undestand first Part.

Thumbs up ! Keep up the great work Jeffrey !
I am very excited about the next parts of your review !

Best regards,
Ken :-)

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Brett
05/21/2012 17:15

Can someone get a rough input lag measurement with Rock Band or Guitar Hero (how many milliseconds?)

Thanks

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Paul Jin
05/21/2012 17:23

Brett - Quick answer is that there is a one frame latency based on the way we process and display the signal.

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Jamie Kelly
05/21/2012 17:31

I, too, am interested in the Rock Band test. Rock Band latency testing is always a bit iffy since you never know if you are in dead center of the hitbox, but it's a good indicator of overall speediness.

In talking to SMD, they said that it's about 21ms latency.

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ravi
05/21/2012 18:57

st1080 + this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_d6KuiuteIA

= the future!!!!

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s
05/21/2012 19:42

thanks for the link. I just preordered one. I am sure that thing will have a huge preorder today

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ravi
05/21/2012 20:01

so it seems the st1080 has lived up to the hype, now if the leap lives up to the hype, then that will be the perfect complementary device with the st1080, the idea of creating a AR layout like in iron man would be one step closer now.

heres the proper company link if anyone else is interested.
http://www.leapmotion.com/

full data immersion is really becoming a reality

Kelvin
05/21/2012 22:28

lol a friend showed me this today and pre-ordered too

For $80 that's a steal

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Bolt Upright
05/22/2012 00:54

I hope it is the real deal! Are there any other articles on the Leap to indicate it is before I hand over my money? hmmm check out Crunchbase and do a search for Leap Motion. Looks real so far..

I agree that $70 is a wonderful price!

This would be awesome combined with a head-tracker & the ST1080!

Mr Nigam
05/22/2012 09:59

leapmotion - will this work with 4-port usb hub ? not sure
if it does then it's great @ usd$70

Albert Choo
05/25/2012 10:31

I am pre-order it also. It would be nice complement with St1080.

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David
05/21/2012 19:41

Hi Mr. Jin,

I would like to ask is it possible of shipping the ST1080p HMD to country like Malaysia?

Thanks

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Kelvin
05/21/2012 22:30

Can anyone who received it say if they shipped with in-ear headphones or those normal ones? =)

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tomin
05/21/2012 23:38

This should answer you ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy7f1sunyS8 ... scroll to 0:21

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Kelvin
05/21/2012 23:51

Thanks for that! Dang, was hoping for in-ear headphones. Well at least we can use our own =D

pete
05/22/2012 08:19

Jeffery,Great review !!! do you notice blurry corners of the screen while paying games and watching movies or is it just while reading text off the computer?Thanks.

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Jeffrey
05/22/2012 09:29

It is mostly noticable when using the ST1080 while reading text on the computer. Annoying when trying to read what is on the top corner of the screen. For movies you look at the center of the screen most of the time so that is good. Games (especially console games) use bigger fonts so you won't really notice it there too.
Of course this is just my experience with the ST1080, The visibility of the screen depends a bit on how well the ST1080 fits on your face. Better wait for reviews from others before making decisions based on this.

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Paul Fay
05/22/2012 08:32

I am getting v excited now....my shipping date is getting close. Am hoping I receive my parcel in in next 7-10 days.... great reviews from those who have received it so far.

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Patrick M
05/22/2012 18:40

Paul my fingers are crossed I get an email with a tracking number this week. Have you got one yet?

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Russell (Bolt Upright)
05/22/2012 10:06

Placed my "pre-order"(what it says after clicking Buy) for a black one a few min ago!

I wonder what the approximate *estimated* shipping time is for one ordered today?

Thanks,
Russell

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Russell -- Bolt Upright
05/22/2012 10:06

Placed my "pre-order"(what it says after clicking Buy) for a black one a few min ago!

I wonder what the approximate *estimated* shipping time is for one ordered today?

Thanks,
Russell

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Russell Bolt Upright
05/22/2012 10:06

Placed my "pre-order"(what it says after clicking Buy) for a black one a few min ago!

I wonder what the approximate *estimated* shipping time is for one ordered today?

Thanks,
Russell

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Russell Bolt Upright
05/22/2012 10:06

Placed my "pre-order"(what it says after clicking Buy) for a black one a few min ago!

I wonder what the approximate *estimated* shipping time is for one ordered today?

Thanks,
Russell

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Russell
05/22/2012 10:08

oops, form kept giving me an error until I un-checked the "Notify me of ..." box. Please delete the extra posts. TIA

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Paul
05/22/2012 20:14

I would also like to know this if possible? Thanks

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VRforever
05/22/2012 10:12

i game with z800 using the sims package @800x600 in 2D
Sometimes i play trackmania forever @800@600 on z800 too - looks very cool but now playing this at native 1080p seems exciting !

So now a question for those who received st1080 and tested it and who have eMagin z800 already -

1)Does anyone have eMagin z800 to compare with this regd. exit pupil / optics/screen door effect / sweet spot

2)Does st1080 have effortless focus just like emagin Z800 3dvisor where you can see all four corners of the screen without strain or effort needed to focus?

This is one big question for me before i order st1080 to upgrade from z800



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Albert Choo
05/22/2012 10:48

Order mine just now. Hopefully it can be shipped before end of July.

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Serp
05/22/2012 12:04

Anyone in the St. Louis MO area receiving one already or soon? I'd like to see it first hand if you would be willing to let me come by and attach my hdw source. Thanks!!

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Serp
05/22/2012 12:14

I will be using it exclusively outside, so want to read reviews about sunlight interference if anyone can review that aspect. Also, how do I order the mobile battery pack? I went to order and all I could include in the cart was the unit, black or white. I absolutely will need the battery pack. Lastly, is the battery pack rechargeable or AA or AAA?

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Serp
05/22/2012 12:17

I will be using it exclusively outside, so want to read reviews about sunlight interference if anyone can review that aspect. Also, how do I order the mobile battery pack? I went to order and all I could include in the cart was the unit, black or white. I absolutely will need the battery pack. Lastly, is the battery pack rechargeable or AA or AAA? take 2.

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Paul
05/22/2012 13:36

Serp, you have to buy your own battery pack. Plenty out there. Read through few pages back for ideas of best ones.

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ravi
05/22/2012 20:24

here you go serp, this is a pretty powerful battery

http://www.amazon.com/Veho-VCC-A010-PRO-XT-13200mAh-Blackberry-Smartphone/dp/B0068JATHQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337732671&sr=8-1

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Paul Jin
05/22/2012 22:43

Serp - Please note that the battery you purchase must be at least 5V 1.5A. Many portable USB batteries are 5V 1A or lower, and that won't have enough power.

I haven't seen too many 5V 1.5A batteries, but I have seen a several 5V 2A, which will work nicely.

During development we used a 5V 2A 10,000mAh battery, and that lasted a bit over 4 hours. That battery cost ~$65. It was from a Korean company, and they don't ship to the US.

Here are some we recently found in the US market:
i.Sound Portable Power Max 5V 2.5A 16,000mAh
i.Sound Portable Power Max 5V 2.5A 8,000mAh
PowerGen Duo-power External Battery 5.3V 2A 8,4000mAh
New Trent iCarrier Dual Port 5V 1A/2A 12,000mAh

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Jeff King
05/22/2012 15:28

Paul Jin,

It's been a week, are you guys still on track with the estimated time of getting all pre-ordered sales (100 off) shipped by end of May?

Thanks!
Jeff.

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ravi
05/22/2012 16:26

i second this would love to hear the progress if its ok by you Mr Jin

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Jack
05/22/2012 22:24

Yeah look forward for a favourable reply from Mr Jin about the progress for 21st preorder batch shipment date

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Paul Fay
05/22/2012 17:10

Jeff - you say (100 off) pre ordered sales. Where did you get this figure?

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ravi
05/22/2012 17:36

hes talking about when they had the special where you preorder the st1080 at $100 off the regular price

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Paul Fay
05/22/2012 17:47

Ahhhh stupid me. Yes of course.....

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Dan
05/23/2012 06:36

a question to the developers Hi I need to know if this device can pull off full 3d with games like uncharted 3 killzone 4 crisis 2 gears of war 3 etc ... gameveda just released some news that I was not too fond off

thank you

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yann
05/23/2012 06:53

Look for the messages marked in blue among the comments. For your convenience, the quote in this thread near the middle reads: "we are committed to providing a firmware upgrade in about a month that will give you the option to view 720p content in scaled-up full-display mode." So you'll be able to turn that border off by scaling the image up once that firmware update is available. (It does already show them in 3D, it's just the games don't use the whole screen.)

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Dan
05/23/2012 07:13

Hi will this firmware upgrade be free or do we pay extra for it ? and so if I understand correctly when playing 720p 3d games such as uncharted 3 or killzone 3 all I will see will be a small box in the center of the screen which in turn would make such games unplayable in 3d mode ?

thank you

yann
05/23/2012 08:27

I would be seriously surprised and even quite aggravated if firmware updates of such basic nature were extra cost. I am taking it as given that this function is included in the sale, just delivered late.
As for small boxes being "unplayable", do you generally say that of 60" screens? I for one play my Kinect via a 23", so either way I get an upgrade. Sure, it doesn't beat the HMZ-T1 on field of view for 720p games.. but it's as good as most other HMDs.

TRON NZ
05/23/2012 16:12

According to gameveda's review, some games like gears of war cover the full 100" screen in 3D but many do not at this stage (60" by 30" as hes says). Just wait for the FW update, when up-scaling is implemented. Big fan of GOW so its important to me lol!

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Dan
05/23/2012 08:39

Yann what about graphical wise in 3d 60 inch is not bad but comparing to hmz t1 does It supersede it graphic wise in 720p 3d ?

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Dan
05/23/2012 08:41

I am also wondering about immersion wise how immersive is playing skyrim for instance comparing to hmz t1

Thank you

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Paul Jin
05/23/2012 11:43

Most firmware upgrades will be free. We don't have anything planned that will be for a fee, but there could be in the future so I don't want to rule it out.

To be clear, the firmware upgrades that's been discussed so far will be free of charge.

We will provide more information about formats that we'll support in the future at a point where we've made enough progress to share that information with you.

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Dan
05/23/2012 12:58

wiil i be able to upgrade it online with my macbook ? how does the firmware upgrade work exactly ?

thank you

Andre
05/23/2012 14:34

Hi, I'm eager to get mine, the sole purpose for me would be to watch 3D Blu-Ray movies. How will the 3D effect be compared to cinema and to lets say 60" 3D LED/Plasma's? I really only feel depth when watching demo display units in shops oppose to popping 3D in cinemas.

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George
05/23/2012 20:20

Ok, I'm tired of meaningless, confused, uninformative inane drivel that some call reviews. Can any of those who received it say anything about these issues (clearly, in a non-avoidant/non-dementia/non-crackhead stoned way):
1. Colors (compared to HMZ or compared to anything you tried, TV, PJ etc).
2. Blacks (compared to TV/PJ, whatever).
3. Sharpness of the edges (is text uniform across the screen, legible in the corners)
4. Perceivable distance to the screen compared to HMZ-T1 (is this really 100" at 10' away, or smaller/larger?)
5. 3D pop effect in movies in 1080p. (don't care about 720p until scaling is added)
6. Were you able to play a game in 3D in 1080p 30Hz top-bottom full frame mode? How was the image quality? How was framerate (tolerable for fps games like Call of Duty or not)?
7. Is focus easily attainable? Do you just put it on your nose like regular glasses and everything's immediately in focus, or do you have to adjust it to a sweet spot... and if so how big is it?

I'd really appreciate if someone could answer these very simple questions. Just yes/no, or two-words up-to-the-point answers would do worlds more than these 117-paragrpahs lyric piles of nonsense with 3-mile long intros about how dinosaurs came to earth. I/we don't need a lengthy review at this point. Just answer these questions, PLEASE, anyone? You don't have to play with it for weeks to answer them. Just watching 10 seconds of a movie, and 10 seconds of looking at windows desktop should be sufficient to answer all of these questions.

PLEASE...

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05/24/2012 05:39

In my review I already covered some of your questions. But I'll try here to answer as many as I can:
1. Colors seems to be a bit worse than my LED/LCD laptop screen. But still more than good enough for watching movies/playing games etc.
2. Not great, Black is dark gray. It also seems to be having some light bleeding issues on the sides.
3. Text is very sharp, good readable. Only the corners are a bit out of focus. If you focus on them they are also sharp.
4. Don't have the HMZ-T1, So can't judge on that. But it looks like a big screen.
5. Depends on the movie. For some movies it is hard to see, and some are just amazing with floating stuff towards you and everything. For PC games you can sometimes adjust the effect to make it stronger. I liked the 3d effect in Unreal tournament 2004 (in combination with iz3D) the most. Especially flying with the redeemer ;).
6. Didn't got that mode to work yet (Have to play around with programs on my laptop, to get different modes to work). NVidia Vision 3D detects it but only for bluray playback. 3DTV Play from NVidia does not seems to work right now (all options disabled). I personally prefer 1080p 3D SBS 60Hz (half resolution). Its 60Hz and still looks very good.
7. At first you really have to get used to the HMD. You can adjust 2 slides for your pupil distance. After that it is just putting it on and have fun. Ofcourse there is a 'sweet spot', where you can see most of the screen perfect. But you can still see everything good when moving the HMD around. You can even shake your head while the screen stays good ;).

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George
05/24/2012 16:56

Now THIS is what I call a good review. You answered the most important questions and then some. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH for your answer!!!

Mr Nigam
05/24/2012 22:44

@Jeffrey -
1)i believe it's ur second HMD after HMZ - right ? u never tried emagin z800 - right ?

2)are u satisfied with st1080 with all it's pros / cons in other words - are u going to keep it OR sell it on auction sites like ebay !

Jeffrey
05/25/2012 04:10

Hi Mr Nigam,

1) This is my first HMD. I never tried any other hmd so I really can't compare the ST1080 to something.
2) I am very satisfied. Especially when I got used to it. I'm using it everyday and not just because it is another new gadget ;). I think it's worth the money. I won't sell it. It's my precious! :P

Steven
05/25/2012 15:13

Would you say the screen is like a movie theater or just looking at a monitor from a close distance?

Jeffrey
05/25/2012 15:34

Definitely more like a movie theater. Or a large screen hanging against the wall at the other side of the room.

pete
05/24/2012 05:53

Has anyone tried 3d movie from a 3d blu ray player ,is it full screen?can you use frame packing ?

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Dan
05/24/2012 08:00

will we be able to get the firmware update via this website ?

thank you

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John
05/24/2012 18:57

I just found out about this and the HMZ-T1 a few weeks ago and thought they might be what I have been looking for since I was a child (an HMD with a cinema screen and quality to rival it.) From the review a few posts up it sounds like a 100" version of what my old E-machines 22" LCD monitor looks like. Could those who have one, or the HMZ-T1 let me know if I am way off base (I apologize for being blunt.) I would not be gaming at all, just watching blu-rays (mostly in 2D.) Anyone have a 1080p projector and either one of these HMD's that can compare the difference in quality? Also, would a light controlled environment help with the black levels? Thanks in advance!

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05/27/2012 17:18

I also just posted a new part on my review, don't be afraid to ask if you have any additional questions:
http://jeffreyvanbinsbergen.nl/3/ST1080+Review+%28Part+2%29

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Pete
05/27/2012 22:31

Thanks for the review Jeffrey ,is the light bleeding only on the blacks in 3d or is it also seen in 2d ?Have you tried a 3d blu ray through a 3d blu ray player or just through your computer?cheers.

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Andre
06/01/2012 05:48

What is the best or preferred portable 3D capable hdmi splitter to use for two glasses configuration on a PS3?

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Nems
06/20/2012 06:21

To Paul Jin :
any news about the firmware update for upscaling 720p to 1080p ?

Is there a scaling chip on the controller or is the process will be handled only by software ? (I guess there is one due to the Side-by-side capacity).

Thanks for your reply.

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yann
06/20/2012 09:13

As per the ST1080 firmware update utility, the main chip is an XA Spartan-3A FPGA. That's a reconfigurable chip, meaning new functionality like this scaling will be in hardware, space permitting. Also remarkable is that it is the automotive grade part, which has a much extended temperature range; it's not only the main source of heat (barring simplistic power design, I haven't opened it) in the control box but can accept hot conditions too. There is probably not a processor onboard capable of operating at the speed to do this sort of thing in software; we're talking about over 700MB/s, ignoring the memory transfer software would likely need to do. A change like video scaling isn't cheap to do in hardware either, likely using up (by a quick estimate) at least 60Kbit of block RAM; even the largest chip in this family only has 176. That, or doubling the memory reads.

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